https://wespenrevideos.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/QA-Session-2-May-2024.pdf
To grasp all of this you must read all of the Wes Penre Papers which include a massive bibliography to support his writings. This is a very heavy reading, so if you’re not the sort to invest time in this then give it a miss.
There is no such thing as creator gods. They are geneticists, thus not god, nothing more than some form of intelligent beings, never call them gods because that is ego based.